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PostSubject: About Werewolves   Thu Oct 11, 2018 6:54 am

Like I said in another post, major information about werewolves will come at a later date. A long while from now but there is some information that is available.

(For the sake of convenience, I will be posting the replies on this topic that have added information here at the top)

Werewolves as they stand in reality are vastly different to what is seen in pop-culture. An important thing to keep in mind is that physically transforming into a wolf is impossible. It is biologically impossible.

Just to be clear, when I mention physically transforming into a wolf, I mean it to the extent of something like this: https://youtu.be/UfUrSodTwDw?t=9 (0:09 - 0:21)

Also the notion of ''vampires vs. werewolves'' This is just a pure joke. Some person (an idiot) at some point in history took a look at these beings and decided that they are 'natural enemies' now and it kind of snowballed from there.

The fact is that throughout history and as time went on, people started to take spiritual allegories literally and there are many aspects in spirituality that are allegorical. Such as Greek mythology which have a lot of spiritual allegories in them.

Werewolves are very.. astral beings. When one becomes a werewolf an astral wolf sort of 'comes out' of them, to put it very-very simply. It is them in a sense. The fur color of the wolf is the persons natural hair color.

So there you have the spiritual allegory of ''turning into a wolf'' and as said, throughout history, people heard these stories and started to take them literaly. Any source that says they've physically turned into a wolf is unfortunately lying or they just do not understand all of this fully.

Also read Uktena's post here ( http://wamphryshadows.forumotion.com/t1301-shapeshifting-a-basic-guide#6574 ) to get a little bit more in-depth info.

Werewolves can also temporarily take over the body of a physical wolf it's a sort of merging with the animal and is most of the times very peaceful. This taking over the body of a wolf can only happen for a few hours at a time maximum (at least according to current experiences of people who are werewolves) due to the other consciousness of the wolf (physical animal) being there.



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PostSubject: Re: About Werewolves   Fri Oct 12, 2018 8:22 am

I have been reading through the werewolf section and it seems that some content is deleted. I wonder what happened to it.
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PostSubject: Re: About Werewolves   Fri Oct 12, 2018 9:13 am

Elegiar wrote:
I have been reading through the werewolf section and it seems that some content is deleted. I wonder what happened to it.

Some of the info there was so corrupt that it would've been harmful to leave it standing and some information they (the werewolves) don't want revealed at this time.
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PostSubject: Re: About Werewolves   Fri Oct 12, 2018 10:33 am

I can confirm that a physical transformation actually does happen. If you don't believe me that is fine, but I feel it needs to be said.
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PostSubject: Re: About Werewolves   Sat Oct 13, 2018 3:30 am

I am optimistic and believe that we ourselves put limits to this universe and our experiences. In that case you are both right. Smile
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PostSubject: Re: About Werewolves   Sat Oct 13, 2018 4:28 am

PersistenceIsKey wrote:
Like I said in another post, major information about werewolves will come at a later date. A long while from now but there is some information that is avaliable.

Werewolves as they stand in reality are vastly different to what is seen in pop-culture. An important thing to keep in mind is that physically transforming into a wolf is impossible. It is biologically impossible.

Just to be clear, when I mention physically transforming into a wolf, I mean it to the extent of something like this: https://youtu.be/UfUrSodTwDw?t=9 (0:09 - 0:21)

Also the notion of ''vampires vs. werewolves'' This is just a pure joke. Some person (an idiot) at some point in history took a look at these beings and decided that they are 'natural enemies' now and it kind of snowballed from there.
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PostSubject: Re: About Werewolves   Sun Oct 14, 2018 2:43 am

Lol dat lycan tho- no from my experience the werewolf in question turns into a normal wolf. I've heard of a half form but have yet to see it myself.
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PostSubject: Re: About Werewolves   Sun Oct 14, 2018 4:07 am

Uktena wrote:
Lol dat lycan tho- no from my experience the werewolf in question turns into a normal wolf. I've heard of a half form but have yet to see it myself.

The fact is that throughout history and as time went on, people started to take spiritual allegories literally and there are many aspects in spirituality that are allegorical. Such as Greek mythology which have a lot of spiritual allegories in them.

Werewolves are very.. astral beings. When one becomes a werewolf an astral wolf sort of 'comes out' of them, to put it very-very simply. It is them in a sense. The fur color of the wolf is the persons natural hair color.

So there you have the spiritual allegory of ''turning into a wolf'' and as said, throughout history, people heard these stories and started to take them literaly. Any source that says they've physically turned into a wolf is unfortunately lying or they just do not understand all of this fully.

Also read Uktena's post here ( http://wamphryshadows.forumotion.com/t1301-shapeshifting-a-basic-guide#6574 ) to get a little bit more in-depth info.
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PostSubject: Re: About Werewolves   Sun Oct 14, 2018 5:24 am

Well I suppose I'm a liar then, as I've witnessed and experienced physical transformation. It's fine though, no one agrees on everything and of course anyone who would take me at face value without any salt likely shouldn't be on a site like this anyways.
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PostSubject: Re: About Werewolves   Sun Oct 14, 2018 10:41 am

Uktena wrote:
Well I suppose I'm a liar then, as I've witnessed and experienced physical transformation. It's fine though, no one agrees on everything and of course anyone who would take me at face value without any salt likely shouldn't be on a site like this anyways.

Werewolves can also temporarily take over the body of a physical wolf it's a sort of merging with the animal and is most of the times very peaceful. This taking over the body of a wolf can only happen for a few hours at a time maximum (at least according to current experiences of people who are werewolves) due to the other consiousness of the wolf (physical animal) being there.
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PostSubject: Re: About Werewolves   Sun Oct 14, 2018 11:54 am

Gonna throw in my perspective too, because I love it when people shut me down

I watched a lecture about vampires and werewolves coming from an alchemical viewpoint that went into each of the associations that the creatures possess. One is about control and civility, the other about bestial nature and unbridled aggression; one is unbound by time, the other entwined closely with its passing. Pretty sure there was more, but we're going back a few years now and I can't remember all the details. Point is, yes - someone looked at these two monsters and declared them natural enemies because it made sense to them, and the idea made enough sense to enough people for it to become a trope in pop culture. Deciding that whoever came up with the concept is 'an idiot' doesn't make you sound intelligent, Persistence - it makes you sound like a dick Wink Ideas stick for a reason.

I share the same perspective as Elegiar here, we create our own reality and limit it in the same fashion. I know very little about werewolves, but I recently picked up a copy of William R. Wraithe's M.T.H.O.S (not a fan, I'll be honest, but there are some interesting and in-depth perspectives on offer). Wraithe makes the point that were-creatures aren't limited to just wolves, but are limited by their own body mass - think his point was you can't become a mouse or an elephant because you don't have enough (or have too much) matter to make up the form. M.T.H.O.S goes on to state that there are a number of different states, with some representing the animal as you would imagine it, and others looking more like the human/hybrid things you find in Van Helsing or Underworld. Ultimately up to you if you put any credence in his words, I won't judge either way.

Lastly, I'd like to point out the Black Swan Theory. We have a rule (all swans are white) which is immediately disproven upon discovery of a black swan. It's absolutely fine assuming that something doesn't exist because there's no record of it - such as a physical transformation occurring - but that doesn't mean it's impossible. You can only ever prove that something is true, never that it isn't.
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PostSubject: Re: About Werewolves   Sun Oct 14, 2018 4:48 pm

In any case, I'm not here to change minds, though I value differing perspectives. Changing minds via the internet is, in my opinion, a waste of time.

I only hope whatever I put forward is found useful to some degree. People want werewolf information, so I gave it to them.
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